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ryan tonight, he's going to call himself mr. ryan, not congressman. is the emergency room a great place to treat people without insurance? is this the future of american health care? >> my hope is that the future of american health care is going to be solved by a lot of the innovation going on out there and that we're going to do something to preserve and expand affordable access to good quality health care and that's what our focus should be, how do we make certain that everybody has access to affordable, quality health care. >> what do you make of your running mate's statement, governor romney's statement that we don't let people die in their apartments, we get them to the hospital, to the emergency room and that's how we handle people. is that satisfactory? what the governor has been saying twice now in the last couple of weeks now? >> what we want to make certain is that there is a continuum of care. of course, when there is an emergency situation, we are blessed to have great hospitals, great trauma centers that have those emergency rooms that ca
ryan tonight, he's going to call himself mr. ryan, not congressman. is the emergency room a great place to treat people without insurance? is this the future of american health care? >> my hope is that the future of american health care is going to be solved by a lot of the innovation going on out there and that we're going to do something to preserve and expand affordable access to good quality health care and that's what our focus should be, how do we make certain that everybody has...
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and mr. ryan's supposed principles on that issue. we talked about that moments ago with chris hayes. but there are two things that i think are hugely important to the presidential campaign that happened last night. two things that i, frankly, never thought we would get to. and that we got to and, boy, howdy, is this new territory. first was this. >> you asked, do i feel free? let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in the campaign, political capital and now i intend to spend it. it is my style. that's what happened in, after the 2000 election. i earned some capital. i've earned capital in this election, and i'm going to spend it for what i told the people i'd spend it on. which is you've heard the agenda. social security and -- >> social security, first on the list. when george w. bush won re-election in 2004, the first thing he said he wanted to spend his political capital on, first on the list was social security. specifically what he meant was privatizing social security. no more social security safety net, just hand it ov
and mr. ryan's supposed principles on that issue. we talked about that moments ago with chris hayes. but there are two things that i think are hugely important to the presidential campaign that happened last night. two things that i, frankly, never thought we would get to. and that we got to and, boy, howdy, is this new territory. first was this. >> you asked, do i feel free? let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in the campaign, political capital and now i intend to spend it....
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tonight i think mr. ryan made it very clear. they believe government and legislators should make decisions that women should make themselves. >> what's your reaction to what we've seen in some polls that indicate a closing of the gender gap with mitt romney running better now in the polls anyway with women? >> i've seen different polls. i think polls are all over the map right now. i do this this is what women were needing to hear tonight. what are the differences on particular issues. i actually think what we'll see after this is, again, this gender gap that's been very strong in favor of the president. i think we'll continue to see it to grow. >> thanks for joining us tonight. >> good to see you. >> rachel, back to you. >> thank you, lawrence. there's been a snap poll in terms of results from tonight's debate. cbs news did a flash poll of uncommitted voters on who they think won tonight's debate. 19% of those voters said the debate was a tie. 31% say that paul ryan won. 50% say that vice president biden won. we're going to be
tonight i think mr. ryan made it very clear. they believe government and legislators should make decisions that women should make themselves. >> what's your reaction to what we've seen in some polls that indicate a closing of the gender gap with mitt romney running better now in the polls anyway with women? >> i've seen different polls. i think polls are all over the map right now. i do this this is what women were needing to hear tonight. what are the differences on particular...
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let me ask you quickly, what do you think -- mr. ryan -- steve kornacki? >> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve thank you for your time tonight. >> sure. >>> catch steve on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 eastern right here on msnbc. >>> still ahead, was there an intervention in the romney campaign? news tonight about a big fight inside team romney. >>> rudy giuliani think about it, there is only three, a noun a verbal and 9/11 nothing else. i've been negotiating since you were in congress. if you all had been around enough -- maybe i've been around too long they forget all the wonderful things i've done -- but all siding aside -- walk around in my neighborho
let me ask you quickly, what do you think -- mr. ryan -- steve kornacki? >> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1...
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again, the facts are clear, whether mr. ryan likes it or not. second, mr. ryan's budget, which was proposed and supported by house republicans for the fiscal here 2013, would devastate vital services to millions of americans. chairman ryan proudly presented his budget knowing that he wanted to cut the earned income tax credit, slash $134 million from the supplemental nutrition program, and zero out support services for the elderly, disabled, and at-risk young people that would affect something like 23 million americans. in fact, mr. ryan's economic plan was deemed to be so callous that when he spoke at georgetown university, 90 members of the faculty sent him a letter saying that his budget was a complete bastardization of catholic social teaching. as father thomas reese said, i am afraid that chairman ryan's budget reflects the values of his favorite philosopher ayn rand rather than the gospel of jesus christ. mr. ryan says his opponents are liars who want to
again, the facts are clear, whether mr. ryan likes it or not. second, mr. ryan's budget, which was proposed and supported by house republicans for the fiscal here 2013, would devastate vital services to millions of americans. chairman ryan proudly presented his budget knowing that he wanted to cut the earned income tax credit, slash $134 million from the supplemental nutrition program, and zero out support services for the elderly, disabled, and at-risk young people that would affect something...
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one of the things that paul ryan has pledged to do and now mr. romney as well is day one get rid of insurance coverage for birth control for women. you know, 99% of women rely on birth control. this isn't a social issue for women, it's a basic economic issue. it's incredible to have someone running for president who is so out of touch with what women need. >> thank you both. you're being cheered by the crowd and cheered back here in new york. thank you. >> thank you. >>> next, the president talks up his running mate in the sunshine state. stay with you. >> i have never seen clips of a debate, i have never watched any of those reruns from four years ago. >> really? >> from the acceptance speech to the debate or anything, no. life goes on, you move forward, and i don't rehash the past. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and
one of the things that paul ryan has pledged to do and now mr. romney as well is day one get rid of insurance coverage for birth control for women. you know, 99% of women rely on birth control. this isn't a social issue for women, it's a basic economic issue. it's incredible to have someone running for president who is so out of touch with what women need. >> thank you both. you're being cheered by the crowd and cheered back here in new york. thank you. >> thank you. >>>...
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mr. ryan and mr. romney have served up one big crap burger an another in this race. the most farfetched is the fiction that they're trying to help the middle class. we're joined now by representative john yarmouth, democrat of kentucky, and a member of the house budget committee that mr. ryan chairs. thank you, sir, for joining us. we heard last night from mr. ryan about helping out the middle class. of course, we've also heard mr. romney say that, too. take a listen to this, sir. >> and i will get them lower. let me tell you how we can. i have a plan to cut taxes for middle incomes taxpayers. my plan does this, there will be no tax on interest, dividends, or capital gains for middle income families in america. >> i must draw your attention to that, sir. according to the tack policy center, 70% of the federal tax on capital gains is paid for by the wealthiest 1% of the people, the top 1%. yet mr. romney is telling us his capital gains tax cut, like it's some kind of gift for the middle class. i'm interested in your response to that. >> well, of course, we know that g
mr. ryan and mr. romney have served up one big crap burger an another in this race. the most farfetched is the fiction that they're trying to help the middle class. we're joined now by representative john yarmouth, democrat of kentucky, and a member of the house budget committee that mr. ryan chairs. thank you, sir, for joining us. we heard last night from mr. ryan about helping out the middle class. of course, we've also heard mr. romney say that, too. take a listen to this, sir. >> and...
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what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point where mr. romney interrupted mr. ryan was when he said, you know, he was just acting so -- and romney jumped in, careful. careful. ixnay on the talking. at his first post-debate appearance today in wisconsin, vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at stake in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were settled last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actually this. his cam
what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point where mr. romney interrupted mr. ryan was when he said, you know, he was just acting so -- and romney jumped in, careful. careful. ixnay on the talking. at his first post-debate appearance today in wisconsin, vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at stake in this election, when it comes to women's...
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mr. ryan would put your mercy at the stock market. ryan ran out of the room to hide his extreme position. >> we will honor this position and we are not going to jeopardize this program but we have to save it. >> you are jeopardizing the program. you are changing it to supreme and support. the bottom line, people are going to have to may more money out of their pocket. >> it's a voucher. who do you believe? the ama? me? a guy who has fought his whole life for this? a guy that would put a plan in place that knowing cuts $6,400 a year more to the cost of medicare. >> that's what congressman ryan would knowingly do to seniors. vice president biden unmasked what he and his running mate really think about medicare. >> these guys hadn't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party has not been big on medicare from the beginning and they've always been about social security as little as you can do. look, folks, use your commonsense. who do you trust on this? a man who introduced a bill that would raise it $6400 a year knowing it and p
mr. ryan would put your mercy at the stock market. ryan ran out of the room to hide his extreme position. >> we will honor this position and we are not going to jeopardize this program but we have to save it. >> you are jeopardizing the program. you are changing it to supreme and support. the bottom line, people are going to have to may more money out of their pocket. >> it's a voucher. who do you believe? the ama? me? a guy who has fought his whole life for this? a guy that...
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apparently mr. ryan want to be referred to tonight as mr. ryan, not congressman ryan. isn't that a little strange? >> it's not strange at all, reverend. congress is about as popular as psycho killers right now, according to polls. of course he doesn't want to be associated with it. >> but that's the only job that he's had. >> yes, that's true. but i guess he's entitled to be called mister. i don't think joe biden is going to let the audience forget that paul ryan has been in congress and he's a key figure in the house republican leadership that americans deeply are distressed. >> dana milbank and erin mcpike, mr. sharpton thanks you for your time tonight. >>> there's a chance -- a chance paul ryan won't tell the truth tonight. how will vice president biden respond? that's next. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medi
apparently mr. ryan want to be referred to tonight as mr. ryan, not congressman ryan. isn't that a little strange? >> it's not strange at all, reverend. congress is about as popular as psycho killers right now, according to polls. of course he doesn't want to be associated with it. >> but that's the only job that he's had. >> yes, that's true. but i guess he's entitled to be called mister. i don't think joe biden is going to let the audience forget that paul ryan has been in...
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that's where me and paul ryan get most of our facts from. >> so, where was mr. feely, you know, the neighborhood speedy delivery man? voters want to know. we flubbed a phone number or two, right? that simple mistake turned out to be a whopper for florida governor rick scott. during a meeting yesterday on a meningitis outbreak on the state, scott directed anyone with concerns to a toll-free hot line. the problem? here's what callers heard when they dialed the number scott had given. >> hello, boys. thank you for calling me on my anniversary. existing callers, press one. new callers, press two. >> wow, doesn't that sound -- doesn't sound much like the department of health. callers concerned about meningitis were directed in this case to call an adult phone line. the governor later notified of the mistake and it was quickly rectified but not before a few people fell victim, or whatever. >>> illinois congressman joe walsh unveils a gotcha photograph. here's walsh at a debate with duckworth last night. we don't get a great look at his snapshot but leave it to walsh t
that's where me and paul ryan get most of our facts from. >> so, where was mr. feely, you know, the neighborhood speedy delivery man? voters want to know. we flubbed a phone number or two, right? that simple mistake turned out to be a whopper for florida governor rick scott. during a meeting yesterday on a meningitis outbreak on the state, scott directed anyone with concerns to a toll-free hot line. the problem? here's what callers heard when they dialed the number scott had given....
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and frankly i think mr. ryan is going to have a lot of explaining to do. >> jennifer: i think he is too. i, like so many other progressives want to see joe take the gloves off and not just stand by when a falsehood is uttered. that's a lot you have got to roll into one debate. a lot of complex issues that you have to navigate to be successful. i want to play you a sound bite where a michigan reporter asked paul ryan how to drop crime in the cities when there will be tax cuts. >> those are your words not mine. >> thank you very much sir. >> yeah. >> that was kind of strange, put words in people's mouths. >> jennifer: to put this in context, he is being asked in flint, michigan which has a huge crime problem and has been under a emergency financial manager, so a reporter asks are tax cuts basically going to resolve the crime issues? paul ryan did not want to be asked that question. he does not want to be put on the spot. so that's maybe just one window on what his response will be when he is pressed. >> you ca
and frankly i think mr. ryan is going to have a lot of explaining to do. >> jennifer: i think he is too. i, like so many other progressives want to see joe take the gloves off and not just stand by when a falsehood is uttered. that's a lot you have got to roll into one debate. a lot of complex issues that you have to navigate to be successful. i want to play you a sound bite where a michigan reporter asked paul ryan how to drop crime in the cities when there will be tax cuts. >>...
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will do a better job in the debate. 34% for mr. biden. as for the moderator, abc news insists there will be no conflict of interest. they revealed that barack obama attended her wedding in 1999 when a student at harvard law school. the man she married was later the head of the fcc by president obama in 2009. that is 12 years after raddatz divorced him. this is absurd, martha raddatz is known for her tough, fair reporting which is why it was no surprise to her colleagues inside and outside abc news she was chosen for this assignment. congressman ryan arrived in danville early last night. vice president biden spent last night in delaware. he'll arrive in kentucky later today. speaking of debates, last night was round three in that closely contested u.s. senate race up in massachusetts. republican senator scott brown, democratic challenger elizabeth warren facing off in springfield, mass, as two new polls are split on which candidates as the advantage there. unlike the first two debates, last night there was no mention for elizabeth w
will do a better job in the debate. 34% for mr. biden. as for the moderator, abc news insists there will be no conflict of interest. they revealed that barack obama attended her wedding in 1999 when a student at harvard law school. the man she married was later the head of the fcc by president obama in 2009. that is 12 years after raddatz divorced him. this is absurd, martha raddatz is known for her tough, fair reporting which is why it was no surprise to her colleagues inside and outside abc...
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mr. ryan has never debated in a world wide forum. while mr. biden has. so it is crunch time for the congressman. mitt romney and the republicans are counting on ryan to continue the momentum and to at least parry anything vice president biden says. can he do it? that is the drama of the debate in kentucky this evening. since the campaign began, the obama team has not dealt with the media very much. even though the media loves the president. the last white house news conference, seven months ago! can you believe it? mr. obama does some soft news, like the late night shows and the view. but rarely sits for policy interviews. i've interviewed the president twice. but indications are he will dodge "the factor" this year. we hope he doesn't. he wants to reach independent voters, this is the place. obviously any interview he does with us will get world wide attention. vice president biden is even worse in the serious media. he's done few national tv interview views and rarely does he talk to local tv people. he's never been on "the factor," although i will tal
mr. ryan has never debated in a world wide forum. while mr. biden has. so it is crunch time for the congressman. mitt romney and the republicans are counting on ryan to continue the momentum and to at least parry anything vice president biden says. can he do it? that is the drama of the debate in kentucky this evening. since the campaign began, the obama team has not dealt with the media very much. even though the media loves the president. the last white house news conference, seven months...
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. >> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney. take a listen. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> he's just trying to lower the expectations as low as they can go, so if ryan does reasonably well, they can convey he's doing better than expected. it's not true. >> this is a seven-term congressman who does p90x every day, runs marathon -- >> he's debated his opponents many times in wisconsin. >> what's he talking about? >> romney knows that. the big question in this campaign is whether it will catch up to him, is he says whatever is convenient, whatever he can get away with saying. whether on something small like whether paul ryan debated his congressional opponents or on something big like his tax cut. >> indeed. robert, what does paul ryan say when joe bidens, i know
. >> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney. take a listen. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> he's just trying to lower the expectations as low as they can go, so if...
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some responsibility here. >> i'm not into man fights. >> mr. ryan said last night to governor romney was a car guy. well, if they had an elevator stack i guess he was. >> today the campaigning continues the post debate campaigning has already kicked into high gear. >> we're going to level the playing field. it's time to acknowledge what got us into this trouble in the first place. >> the vice president defends the status quo. >> that's a bunch of ma larky. the. >> paul ryan care about each and every american. >> stop caring about how you care about people. show me something. >> the table is now reset. >> with the v.p. debate now over. >> who gets to hit the panic button next? >> with 25 days until the presidential election, the obama re-election campaign is seizing on this statement by paul ryan in last night's debate. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected, should those who believe that abortion should remain legal be worried? >> we don't think that unelected judges should make this decision, that people through their elected representatives,
some responsibility here. >> i'm not into man fights. >> mr. ryan said last night to governor romney was a car guy. well, if they had an elevator stack i guess he was. >> today the campaigning continues the post debate campaigning has already kicked into high gear. >> we're going to level the playing field. it's time to acknowledge what got us into this trouble in the first place. >> the vice president defends the status quo. >> that's a bunch of ma larky....
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do you think this is going to be a washout and that mr. ryan is literally going to trounce biden? >> i was pretty amused by that story, martin, because we were at a paul ryan rally. these are not exactly neutral observers. i suspect they're part of that 90%, 95% i was talking about before, people who observe conservative media and some of those lines they were given there sounded like they were -- they had been previously announced by conservative talk show hosts, but the fact is that this works to biden's benefit because it lowers expectations. there are people who only hearing the jay leno punch lines about joe biden who think he is a bumbling idiot, and here is a guy who has had something like four decades in the senate. people who don't have short memories remember how well he stood up with sarah palin at a time when the question was he had to be impressive without looking like he was picking on her. he played it just right, and i think he knows how to play this situation just right, and paul ryan at the same time has to be careful not to get too wonkish here with a lot of num
do you think this is going to be a washout and that mr. ryan is literally going to trounce biden? >> i was pretty amused by that story, martin, because we were at a paul ryan rally. these are not exactly neutral observers. i suspect they're part of that 90%, 95% i was talking about before, people who observe conservative media and some of those lines they were given there sounded like they were -- they had been previously announced by conservative talk show hosts, but the fact is that...
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mr. ryan's answer is, as comprehensive as he was allowed to be, not a game changer but joe biden was on offense. a >> i remember him saying that nothing he just said was true. this is something the democrats have been clamoring for since last week. >> huffing and puffing suggesting that he was obfuscating and not able to proposals.romney's and are the details that are consistent with the facts. spinning has already begun. the campaign manager making the argument that mr. ryan was unable to explain the details and defend them among the various proposals. senior adviser to the romney campagin in that joe biden was not able to defend the president's record. both sides making their cases aggressively, and no clear knockdown, but some very tough uppercuts. >> and that leaves us for a week from matter at the university that could be a game changer. >> absolutely. >> a quick commercial break and we'll come back for a little more analysis measures... measure up. money to our schools. "misleading.
mr. ryan's answer is, as comprehensive as he was allowed to be, not a game changer but joe biden was on offense. a >> i remember him saying that nothing he just said was true. this is something the democrats have been clamoring for since last week. >> huffing and puffing suggesting that he was obfuscating and not able to proposals.romney's and are the details that are consistent with the facts. spinning has already begun. the campaign manager making the argument that mr. ryan was...
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the romney/ryan campaign negotiated for him to be called mr., not congressman ryan, at least by the moderator. his opponent, vice president biden, can presumably call paul ryan anything he wants and he probably will. i will say, steve, we were just talking about this new tweet that joe biden just sent out. do you have that -- >> i do. biden tweets just ahead of the debate, @joebiden, barack and i are in this because we will never stop fighting for you. you'll see that tonight, joe. the keyword there is "fighting." >> you were saying the keyword there is barack, it drives you nuts it's not the president. >> it's a personal thing. i went to the university of delaware. i have a soft spot for joe biden. but, no, he's the president of the united states. his first name is mr., his last name is president. mr. president. the president and i. >> he should call him president, but i think the keyword is "fight." and i must say, and i said it that night, i think the president was not on his "a" game, but i do not think what the big thing that night was him losing. the big thing was the lying of mitt romn
the romney/ryan campaign negotiated for him to be called mr., not congressman ryan, at least by the moderator. his opponent, vice president biden, can presumably call paul ryan anything he wants and he probably will. i will say, steve, we were just talking about this new tweet that joe biden just sent out. do you have that -- >> i do. biden tweets just ahead of the debate, @joebiden, barack and i are in this because we will never stop fighting for you. you'll see that tonight, joe. the...
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. >> paul ryan shot back, being frank about what he thought was going on. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up lost ground, but people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> i want to bring in nicholas kristof columnist from "the new york times." there is talk about how vice presidential debates generally don't matter, they might have been more important last night because of the bad debate the president had last week. let's gist say if the goal was that biden was, needed to fire up the base, that maybe paul ryan was do no harm, is there a clear winner here? >> my take was i thought paul ryan did a very solid job. even on foreign affairs, which is not something he frankly knows a lot about. he was pretty solid. i do think biden, i would give it to biden on points, and he, while clearly he managed to antagonize a lot of conservatives, often he did manage to have an ability to be pretty biting and pretty sarcastic and deflating without coming across as really nasty. >> let me play a little more from paul
. >> paul ryan shot back, being frank about what he thought was going on. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up lost ground, but people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> i want to bring in nicholas kristof columnist from "the new york times." there is talk about how vice presidential debates generally don't matter, they might have been more important last night because of the bad debate the president...
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. >> mr. ryan said that governor romney was a car guy. if they have an elevator stacked on their couch, i guess he was. >> there was one person on stage who was thought full, respect l respectful, steady and poised, the kind of person you want to turn to in a crisis and that was the next vice president of the united states, paul ryan. i see these obama rallies and they're chanting four more years. our cheer is four more weeks. >> guys, i have to say, that was easily my most favorite debate of the season so far. i think biden was the clear winner, gave democrats the shot of energy they needed, hammered them on the 47%, hammered him on lying, said the facts matter. the moment where they talked about abortion was so destructive because ryan said i'm going to make you all do what i believe in my catholic doctrine and biden said, hey, i believe this, i respect catholic doctrine but i'll let you do what you want to do and made the case that the supreme court is in the balance. but one of the things that i like -- i noticed that ryan can't expla
. >> mr. ryan said that governor romney was a car guy. if they have an elevator stacked on their couch, i guess he was. >> there was one person on stage who was thought full, respect l respectful, steady and poised, the kind of person you want to turn to in a crisis and that was the next vice president of the united states, paul ryan. i see these obama rallies and they're chanting four more years. our cheer is four more weeks. >> guys, i have to say, that was easily my most...
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mr. ryan? >> absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. these are indisputable facts. look, when i look at these programs, we've all had tragedies in our lives. i think what they did for our own family. my mom and i had our grandmother move in with us who has alzheimer's. medicare was there. it was there for my mom who's a florida senior. my mom and dad got social security survivors benefits, helped her go back to college in her 50s where she started a small business, because of the new skills she got. she paid all of her taxes on the promise that these programs would be there for her. we will honor this promise. and the best way to do it is reform it for my generation. you see, if you reform these programs for my generation, people 54 and below, you can guarantee they don't change for people in or near retirement which is precisely what mitt romney and i are proposing. look what obama care does. obama care takes $716 billion from medicare to spend on obama care. even their own chief actuary at medicare backs this up. he says you can't spe
mr. ryan? >> absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. these are indisputable facts. look, when i look at these programs, we've all had tragedies in our lives. i think what they did for our own family. my mom and i had our grandmother move in with us who has alzheimer's. medicare was there. it was there for my mom who's a florida senior. my mom and dad got social security survivors benefits, helped her go back to college in her 50s where she started a small business,...
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romney and mr. ryan going in to tonight's debate, trying to tell voters what they say on television isn't what they're saying in other places. if that's effective, that will certainly hamper the romney effort to come back. it's an important measure, but not necessarily the most important. most importantly, the economy that really is very important. >> and we'll see how sole lid t solid the gains are after the next round of polls. suffolk university who also does rounds of polling, they decided to stop polling in virginia and florida because they already believe they're leaning towards romney. what do you make of that? >> i don't talk about other polls, but we're still polling in the states that we had planned on polling all along and virginia and florida are those states. >> and you'll keep on going. >> we expect to keep on going, yes. >> peter brown, thank you so much for joining us today. >>> may the force be with you. time now for the polysci war. here's what he told the young turks. he's very wi
romney and mr. ryan going in to tonight's debate, trying to tell voters what they say on television isn't what they're saying in other places. if that's effective, that will certainly hamper the romney effort to come back. it's an important measure, but not necessarily the most important. most importantly, the economy that really is very important. >> and we'll see how sole lid t solid the gains are after the next round of polls. suffolk university who also does rounds of polling, they...
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congressman ryan or mr. ryan or -- >> didn't they rule out congressman ryan for the moderator? >> yeah. >> requested that the moderator refer to him as mr. -- >> for the moderator. >> the moderator. >> doesn't play by the same rule that martha -- >> and you spent a lot of time discussing what you're going to call the other person, what that conveys. i sort of wondered if did they really come up with joe you're going to go out and refer to him as my friend? i don't think so. i think this was an example of him lapsing back into sort of obscenities as you said, what he's comfortable doing, been in the senate for a long time, the right honorable gentleman, my friend, my colleague and you fall into what you're comfortable doing. >> better senate-east than ill ease. >> that's true. >> that's why they do in the senate. >> you would rather refer to him as congressman ryan and remind everybody he's been part of the congress with the lowest approval numbers. >> that's the whole purpose. >> last point here. paul ryan for -- from, you know, outside assessment, was not seemingly that nervou
congressman ryan or mr. ryan or -- >> didn't they rule out congressman ryan for the moderator? >> yeah. >> requested that the moderator refer to him as mr. -- >> for the moderator. >> the moderator. >> doesn't play by the same rule that martha -- >> and you spent a lot of time discussing what you're going to call the other person, what that conveys. i sort of wondered if did they really come up with joe you're going to go out and refer to him as my...
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nobody -- >> ryan: mr. vice president -- i know -- >> biden: no. >> ryan: i know you are under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground -- [ laughter ] >> ryan: but people would be better served if we don't interrupt each other. they already organized the retirement -- >> let me ask you this. what -- what is your specific plan for seniors who really can't afford to make up the difference in the value of what you call a premium support plan and others call a voucher -- >> ryan: 100% coverage. >> how do you make that up in >> ryan: by taking down the subsidies for wealthy people. this is a plan -- by the way the $6,400 number was misleading then and it's totally inaccurate now. this is plan i put together -- >> biden: not one democrat endorses this. >> ryan: our partner is a democrat from oregon -- >> biden: and he said he does no longer support you. >> ryan: we put it together with a former clinton advisor -- >> biden: who disavows it. >> ryan: here is the point martha -- if we don't fix this problem prett
nobody -- >> ryan: mr. vice president -- i know -- >> biden: no. >> ryan: i know you are under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground -- [ laughter ] >> ryan: but people would be better served if we don't interrupt each other. they already organized the retirement -- >> let me ask you this. what -- what is your specific plan for seniors who really can't afford to make up the difference in the value of what you call a premium support plan and others call a...
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in mr. ryan's debate practices the role of vice president joe biden is being played by celebrated conservative attorney and former george w. bush solicitor general ted olson. ted olson is not your average former bush administration official. he is the former bush administration official who's been leading the legal effort to overturn california's ban on gay marriage and maybe every state's ban on gay marriage. he is very, very, very, very conservative. but he is on the pro-gay side of this marriage fight. today at nyu's law school i got a chance to interview ted olson and his co-counsel the celebrated democratic attorney david boyce. they fought against each other in bush v. gore in the 2000 election but they are fighting together on the side of marriage equality in this federal case. and ted olson is the one of course who sticks out like a sore thumb here. he's a straight, married guy. he does not have a gay family member who has driven him to this decision. he has decided as a small govern
in mr. ryan's debate practices the role of vice president joe biden is being played by celebrated conservative attorney and former george w. bush solicitor general ted olson. ted olson is not your average former bush administration official. he is the former bush administration official who's been leading the legal effort to overturn california's ban on gay marriage and maybe every state's ban on gay marriage. he is very, very, very, very conservative. but he is on the pro-gay side of this...
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i'm just hopeful that mr. ryan will tell the truth. >> from a's farmer debate coach give his opinion on how the next will go -- romney's former coach gave his opinion. >> we did not go after him so you need to turn up the heat. >> biden says he's ready. foreign and domestic policy issues will both be in play. it's the only vice-presidential debate before the november 6th election. >> another note, the presidential candidates are out campaigning while their running mates are preparing for the debate. romney is spending a third day in florida and the president come as you can see, will be rallying support in los angeles. >> senate hopefuls in virginia will be facing off in a debate tomorrow in richmond. that will be held on october 18th on the virginia tech campus. there are running for webb's open seat. >> tonight, we have a metro service update. work on the red line is forcing trains to single track between judiciary square and fort totten. between stadium-armory and cheverly. "extend through closing monday be
i'm just hopeful that mr. ryan will tell the truth. >> from a's farmer debate coach give his opinion on how the next will go -- romney's former coach gave his opinion. >> we did not go after him so you need to turn up the heat. >> biden says he's ready. foreign and domestic policy issues will both be in play. it's the only vice-presidential debate before the november 6th election. >> another note, the presidential candidates are out campaigning while their running mates...
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. >> what does mr. ryan have to do to fend off the older, perhaps more seasoned veterans tonight? >> i think what he has to do is not get down in the weeds of the numbers but take those numbers and translate them into real people, real stories out there, very much as you saw romney do at the beginning of the delate last time. it really set the tone for where he was going to go and how he was going to frame the discussion. so i think to the extent he can do that, it gets him in some good ground. >> does he have the ability to nail the guy on where the weedy decisions on vouchers, on person 45 hood, on cuts of things like capital gains, and getting rid of estate taxes and lowering the top individual rate. all the wealth going to the top people, can biden nail him on that stuff? >> i did an interview with the vice president back in august and he hasn't done very many ser interviews. we talked about this thing. this is obviously before what happened in denver last week, but this is exactly what he was saying he was going to do. he was saying there's these stark differences between us
. >> what does mr. ryan have to do to fend off the older, perhaps more seasoned veterans tonight? >> i think what he has to do is not get down in the weeds of the numbers but take those numbers and translate them into real people, real stories out there, very much as you saw romney do at the beginning of the delate last time. it really set the tone for where he was going to go and how he was going to frame the discussion. so i think to the extent he can do that, it gets him in some...
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mr. ryan? >> absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. these are indisputable facts. >> david, what about that? is social security going bankrupt? i know the answer. i want to hear it from you. >> social security last year turned a $95 billion surplus. it has a surplus built up, taxes we paid in advance for our benefits, of well north of $2 trillion. the only reason social security's future isn't strong is we haven't had wage growth and haven't had job growth. and ryan wants to get rid of social security. he is on the record in so many places saying that, that it is absurd of him to argue otherwise. he clearly wants to get rid of medicare as we know it, replace it with a system that only helps the rich. >> david cay johnston, great to have you with us on this friday evening on "the ed show." thanks so much. >>> there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> ever felt that way where you just want to deck somebody? >> call the whambulance. fox news is freaking out about joe biden. >> it was openly cont
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do you really believe that, mr. ryan? i would challenge him on these very fundamental positions he's taking. >> maybe you should xerox that and slip it to one of biden's guys. >> both sides can see it. both sides can see it. >> in the meantime, the polls, we had a little graphic up that showed pole ryization. because so many people have made up their minds, do you bank on this debate tonight being any kind of a change in the game? >> i doubt it's going to be a change. we've seen very few vice presidential debates where they've mattered. democrats want a little bit of momentum. these polls have shown that last week's debate didn't matter all that much but going into this final stretch with 26 days left they actually want something to believe in their side, to take the fight to the republicans. i think that's what they're going to be looking for. the republicans want to keep their momentum. >> i think the draw goes to the other side, the republicans. >> i do too. >> without a win. >> has to be decisive. >> the team loses. >
do you really believe that, mr. ryan? i would challenge him on these very fundamental positions he's taking. >> maybe you should xerox that and slip it to one of biden's guys. >> both sides can see it. both sides can see it. >> in the meantime, the polls, we had a little graphic up that showed pole ryization. because so many people have made up their minds, do you bank on this debate tonight being any kind of a change in the game? >> i doubt it's going to be a change....
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here's how mr. biden assessed the debate yesterday. >> anyone who watched that debate, i don't think there's any doubt that congressman ryan and i, governor romney and the president, we have a fundamentally different vision for america. and truth is that i think people -- >> well, there are only two presidential debates remaining. we have a town hall style forum on tuesday, foreign policy debate later this month. nbc campaign cari -- hello from d.c. let's get a question to you. do you get a sense that mr. biden set up a blueprint for the president at the next debate? >> well, you know, the vice president went into this debate with a very clear directive. be aggressive about paul ryan and to sort of stop the bleeding in a sense. democrats were very dismayed as we know by president obama's performance in that thursday debate for being a little bit lackluster, for not responding to mitt romney's claims. and biden went into this with a lot of enthusiasm. i think he was really amped up for the opportunit
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i am going to go with mr. romney and paul ryan. i thought of vice-president joe biden was very rude. he cut all right and off all the time, like he did not want to hear what he said. on the abortion issue, i agree with the -- they said they supported it for the woman and and rape. that is what i believe. planned parenthood to me takes measures not to get that way -- to get a heart beat and kill them. years or die catholic. yes. baptist. the remarks the caller made about joe biden being a used car salesman, i have a son that is a car salesman. he does not talk like that. he is not rude. obama does not carry about the coal miners. he has put lots of them out of work. more mines are closing down. ohio and west virginia and all the other calls states, they are hurting. i think president obama is weak on foreign policy. pretty soon we will have two classes said interim america free it two terms from obama. >> on twitter from john kerry -- you are on--sue. >> hello i thought of vice- president joe biden did a great job. he actually gave
i am going to go with mr. romney and paul ryan. i thought of vice-president joe biden was very rude. he cut all right and off all the time, like he did not want to hear what he said. on the abortion issue, i agree with the -- they said they supported it for the woman and and rape. that is what i believe. planned parenthood to me takes measures not to get that way -- to get a heart beat and kill them. years or die catholic. yes. baptist. the remarks the caller made about joe biden being a used...
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did mr. ryan effectively counter the infamous 47% mitt romney quote? >> no. no. and you didn't play biden's response there. he said i always say what i mean and so does governor romney. that was a wonderful response to that comment. the 47% is not a made up thing. it is what governor romney believes. >> the 47% riff by biden was the best part of the debate for him. he said what are you talking about? my folks i grew up with in scranton, my neighbors my parents that was the best thing for biden in the whole thing. >>> did you observe that part buchanan is glorifying here? >> i agree biden was very effective with that argument and it set you want something for ryan to attempt to discount it by saying ryan is full of all these gaffes all the time but i didn't think it came across as effectively as they wanted it do. it got a laugh but didn't kill the argument biden was making about the 47%. >>> when we come back, the benghazi blame game. you spent years hard at work, building your skills and talents, raising your family. and lately, like me, you're probably feeling
did mr. ryan effectively counter the infamous 47% mitt romney quote? >> no. no. and you didn't play biden's response there. he said i always say what i mean and so does governor romney. that was a wonderful response to that comment. the 47% is not a made up thing. it is what governor romney believes. >> the 47% riff by biden was the best part of the debate for him. he said what are you talking about? my folks i grew up with in scranton, my neighbors my parents that was the best...